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Will the U.S. solve the climate change problem?
Either the ingenuity unleashed by the United States own special mix of free markets and government regulation will solve the climate change crisis or the rest of the world, having witnessed an American government content to stick its head in the sand, will forcibly compel the country into a green future. Such, at least, were the terms of the debate last night that wrapped up Day 1 of the State of the Planet conference at Columbia University.

Stanford University law professor David Victor --a legal expert on climate change and energy--and Vinod Khosla, a venture capital investor with a current focus on clean energy technology, argued that the U.S. will take the lead in trying to stem global warming, both by setting an example with domestic legislation to cut globe-warming pollution and by leading the world in innovative clean energy technology.

But Yale University law professor Daniel Esty, an environmental law and policy expert, and economist Michael Grubb of University of Cambridge in the U.K. countered that the rest of the world has already taken the lead--through efforts such as the Kyoto Protocol or the European Union's Emissions Trading Scheme-- and will not relinquish it.

"The U.S. is on the cusp of serious efforts to control emissions at home," Victor promised, citing efforts such as a climate bill pending in the U.S. that would impose mandatory limits on greenhouse gas emissions and the three remaining presidential candidates climate plans. "We have one world. The U.S. can and must and will engage in the efforts starting at home, starting with innovators and ultimately magnifying that worldwide," Victor added. Specifically he says the U.S. will impose stringent legislative caps on greenhouse gas emissions in the near future, develop technology to address the problem and then spread that technology cheaply throughout the world.

Not good enough, argued Esty, noting that more than just a U.S. response is required. "This is a global harm and we need a global response. We've seen how unilateralism works. We've lived it for the last seven years. It's not a successful strategy," he said, noting that the Kyoto Protocol involves more than 160 countries, pointedly not including the U.S. and therefore the best innovation potential is not here but abroad. And that's a good thing. "Innovation across the U.S. is good but innovation across the world is better. We cannot afford to leave anyone on the sidelines."

But the home for innovation--and the money to finance it--is in the U.S., Khosla argued. "What if engines consumed half as much oil? … What if renewable alternatives to oil were half the price of oil? … What if solar and geothermal power were both scalable and cheaper than coal and natural gas?" he said, a list of the kinds of technology start-ups in which he has already invested in the hopes of profiting from a clean energy revolution. "We don't have to force India and China to be part of global cap and trade if--and only if--these alternatives are cheaper than fossil [fuels]."

Yet, the U.S.--and much of the rest of the world--is spending most of its money on greenhouse gas-polluting energy, such as coal-fired power plants. "The world will spend around $20 trillion over the next few decades in energy sector. Most of that is still flowing and is projected to flow into higher carbon solutions," Grubb noted. "It is government action that will drive investment in the opposite direction." Technology innovation cannot get started anywhere without the appropriate government incentives and, because the U.S. still doesn't have a federal governmental policy, it is more likely that the rest of the world will develop solutions.

The crowd was decisively in favor of a global approach in which the U.S. plays a role but not necessarily even the leading one; about a 70-30 split by the moderator's count at the beginning and much the same at the end, not surprising for a crowd that drew heavily on academia and United Nations personnel. Few minds were changed (all too often the case when the subject is climate change).

But the truth is that both sides are right. The U.S. is the world's largest emitter and the developed country rich enough and innovative enough to produce technological fixes for the climate crisis. Speakers at the conference continue to warn that the U.S. must convincingly show how the carbon dioxide emissions from a coal-fired power plant can be captured and stored--and soon.

All the countries of the world--rich and poor, developed and developing--must come together because a ton of carbon dioxide emitted anywhere in the world affects every other part of the world now, Columbia University's Earth Institute economist Jeff Sachs noted earlier in the day. That global solution will be hard to come by, Esty argued, and turns fundamentally on issues of fairness and necessity. "Should every human being have an equal right to pollute the environment?" Khosla asked. "If India tries to be the same as the U.S., the world is toast. … The only answer is by making [energy] cheaper." And a whole lot less carbon intensive.
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Newsflash: the US can't change the planet's climate by passing laws. It can certainly ruin the economy though. Look, as oil gets more and more expensive, alternative technologies will develop organically in response to the market need. The last thing we need is for government bureaucrats to declare a particular technology as the holy grail and invest trillions of dollars in it, only to find out it's a bust. Cough cough ethanol. If you want the world to become less dependent on oil, then stop complaining about rising oil prices - the more expensive oil is, the more money will be invested in thousands of alternative technologies, and the quicker a few of those technologies will emerge as viable. But if the government pours trillions of dollars into the wrong technologies, the development of the viable technologies will not be appreciably quicker, and the economy will be harmed in the meantime.
The answer to a question like this relies to a certain degree on what one means by "solve". If one means can the US solve the problem by fostering greater understanding of what's going on and help to bring about cleaner,safer, and more abundant energy so that natural resources can be better protected and less threatened by a material goods craving expanding population around the world that no longer has to destroy its coastal forests and burn all its trees to feed its children, surprisingly I think we can if we don't loose what initiative or squander what advantages we do have on poorly thought out plans relying on uncertain and insufficient data..
But if by "solve" you mean;, can we keep the global temperature within certain parameters by controlling CO2? I doubt it. If in fact CO2 were the major cause of global warming as has been asserted by many, a few of whom actually are in full understanding of the predictive powers of climate modelling, (that is to say; not too much) then, and only maybe, could we do something, but even then only the most optimistic would think we could actually reverse the warming pattern considering how complex the causes likely are.
Never the less, there are methods to recapture CO2 which don't require that we stop the economic engine that the world's growing population demands to provide for its expectations (or if not they will destroy their natural resouces to get it). But even that will be in vain if we continue to pollute the world with truly toxic organic volatile gasses and particulates, heavy metals, soot and topsoil and fertilzer laden run-off and those problems, I think ,looms far more prominently that warming which is still historically within parameters that the planet has experienced before and managed to survive once known buffering and feed back mechanisms come into play that have throughout our climate history maintained this dynamic equillibrium for so long.
The answer to a question like this relies to a certain degree on what one means by "solve". If one means can the US solve the problem by fostering greater understanding of what's going on and help to bring about cleaner,safer, and more abundant energy so that natural resources can be better protected and less threatened by a material goods craving expanding population around the world that no longer has to destroy its coastal forests and burn all its trees to feed its children, surprisingly I think we can if we don't loose what initiative or squander what advantages we do have on poorly thought out plans relying on uncertain and insufficient data..
But if by "solve" you mean;, can we keep the global temperature within certain parameters by controlling CO2? I doubt it. If in fact CO2 were the major cause of global warming as has been asserted by many, a few of whom actually are in full understanding of the predictive powers of climate modelling, (that is to say; not too much) then, and only maybe, could we do something, but even then only the most optimistic would think we could actually reverse the warming pattern considering how complex the causes likely are.
Never the less, there are methods to recapture CO2 which don't require that we stop the economic engine that the world's growing population demands to provide for its expectations (or if not they will destroy their natural resouces to get it). But even that will be in vain if we continue to pollute the world with truly toxic organic volatile gasses and particulates, heavy metals, soot and topsoil and fertilzer laden run-off and those problems, I think ,looms far more prominently that warming which is still historically within parameters that the planet has experienced before and managed to survive once known buffering and feed back mechanisms come into play that have throughout our climate history maintained this dynamic equillibrium for so long.
Here is my opinion on this subject. In the News.Global Warming, truth or consequences. I believe we should put our efforts where our priorities belong. I would like to present a couple of recently written articles. Please pass
on to your friends. Thanks

http://www.quazen.com/News/Opinions/Al-Gores-Decree-on-Global-Warming-is-Not-Our-Only-Crisis.51904
Al Gore's Decree on Global Warming is Not Our Only Crisis

http://www.quazen.com/Science/Environment/Our-Energy-Conservation-Dilemma.32660
Our Energy Conservation Dilemma

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Edited by bfreewithrp at 03/29/2008 10:43 AM
Serious movement towards reducing greenhouse gases in the US will occur only if and when 1) sea levels rise to cause widespread flooding in coastal areas; or 2) alternatives to carbon energy sources become cheaper than carbon energy sources.
In other words, the U.S. will need to be pushed into the needed investments; voluntary actions will not be sufficient.
These two factors will also ultimately push the world's largest countries into combating global warming. All of them have coastal cities that could be inundated if a few Antarctic and the Greenhouse large ice sheets slide into the ocean. Ocean levels will rise significantly overnight when that happens.
I find it puzzling that people continue extolling the Kyoto protocols despite the track record to date of failure of the signatories of that protocol to achieve what they pledged to accomplish. The comment above that carbon emissions will begin to decrease when we have cost effective alternatives is logical and correct. Spending hundreds of billions to control carbon emissions with no return on the investment may solve the problem by plunging the world into a depression dwarfing the severity of the worldwide depression of the 1930s
I dont think America can solve the problem, more like add to it, and if the recent decisions taken by the California Air Resources Board's decisions are anything to go by, that is certainly so. Far from enforcing the quota of zero emission vehicles that auto manufacturers are required to make, they reduced that quota to 30% of what the requirement was set at in 2003
 

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